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Vetted in Vet Med: 10 Signs of Veterinary Burnout

Season 1 Episode 5

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Summary

In this conversation, Dr. Daveeta Levy and Dr. Ayanna Wilson discuss the signs and symptoms of burnout specifically in veterinary professionals. They explore emotional exhaustion, detachment, compassion fatigue, and the impact of stress on mental and physical health. The conversation emphasizes the importance of recognizing these signs and seeking help, as well as the need for self-care and coping strategies to manage burnout effectively.

Takeaways

  • Burnout can affect anyone, not just veterinary professionals.
  • Emotional exhaustion is a key sign of burnout.
  • Detachment from work can lead to cynicism and compassion fatigue.
  • Feeling a reduced sense of accomplishment can contribute to burnout.
  • Increased irritability is a common symptom of stress.
  • Physical symptoms like headaches and fatigue are linked to burnout.
  • Sleep disturbances can exacerbate feelings of burnout.
  • Isolation from social interactions can be a sign of burnout.
  • Loss of passion for work can indicate burnout.
  • Coping mechanisms may include unhealthy habits like substance use.



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Dr. Daveeta Levy (00:39)
So it's me, Dr. Levy. So we came in just to do a short video. We wanted to really expound upon and go over some signs of burnout. This is more specific for veterinary professionals, but this really can be applied to any field of work.

Dr. Ayanna Wilson (00:43)
and Dr. Wilson.

Dr. Daveeta Levy (01:07)
And so some, I realized that some individuals may not even know that they are suffering or dealing with burnouts. And so these are just 10 signs of veterinary burnout that we wanted to share with you guys. And in our next video, we'll go over just some tips in recovery for veterinary burnout.

So the first one is emotional exhaustion. And so this is you feeling drained, depleted, overwhelmed most days, even if you have gotten a full night of sleep. It's really just not much emotional reserve that is left over, one for your patients, your clients, your colleagues, or even for yourself.

Dr. Ayanna Wilson (01:47)
Mm-hmm.

Right, I know that's right. Yes.

Dr. Daveeta Levy (02:06)
So, I feel like, yeah, yeah, I'm like, I feel like I feel like that a lot.

Dr. Ayanna Wilson (02:09)
I like this. go ahead. ⁓

Yeah,

yeah. I definitely find myself disassociating when people are having genuine conversations about their feelings or what, those things. I don't feel as much anymore because I'm no longer in like this particular situation. I'm still combating those things, but ⁓ absolutely. Like if you guys don't know, for those who don't realize what disassociating is.

Dr. Daveeta Levy (02:33)
Uh-huh.

Dr. Ayanna Wilson (02:43)
It's like you're removing yourself mentally while somebody's talking to you. You're like, you're in a whole nother space. Literally feeling like, I literally feel like I'm just floating away. Like, and then I have to kind of snap myself back like, are they having a whole conversation with you? Like focus, focus. That's your work.

Dr. Daveeta Levy (02:55)
Hmm.

Hahaha!

I

know what, yeah. I feel like because I do so much talking to all these people, especially if you have, or are working at somewhere where it's high volume, you've talked to so many people, whether it was in the rooms or over the phones.

Dr. Ayanna Wilson (03:22)
Mm-hmm.

Yeah.

Dr. Daveeta Levy (03:30)
Then the staff, like, it's just so much talking. And it's sometimes I'll just, I'll go home with nothing. Like nothing is playing. No radio, nothing. I'm just riding home in silence because I don't, I don't want to talk to nobody, you know? And then it's just like in preparation for when I get home because the job does not end there.

Dr. Ayanna Wilson (03:47)
Don't nobody talk.

Dr. Daveeta Levy (03:59)
Like I have my kids who are, you know, greeting me at the door, excited to see me.

Dr. Ayanna Wilson (04:04)
Okay. Happy to see you.

Yeah. Yeah.

Dr. Daveeta Levy (04:10)
And I'm just tired, just tired. So the second one is what you already shed light on, detachment or cynicism. So you start becoming emotionally numb or disconnected from your work. You may feel indifferent towards your clients or cases or catch yourself thinking like, what's the point?

Dr. Ayanna Wilson (04:28)
Hmm.

Yeah, I feel like more, I would say specifically, ⁓ know, oftentimes we talk about like our euthanasias and how we still feel a lot and the moment you stop feeling any type of thing after euthanizing a pet, you should probably quit. You should probably quit. And it sounds aggressively, you know, definite, but like

Dr. Daveeta Levy (04:46)
Yeah, yeah.

Anyway.

Yeah. Yeah.

Dr. Ayanna Wilson (05:05)
You shouldn't not feel anything after euthanizing a pet at all.

Dr. Daveeta Levy (05:06)
Mm-hmm. I

know. And I mean, at least take some type of extended break. use your PTO and take the time that you need to get back into it. Being in lab animal, there's a lot of euthanasia, that takes place.

Dr. Ayanna Wilson (05:28)
Mm-hmm.

Dr. Daveeta Levy (05:28)
And that's why it's really easy, especially in that setting to have like compassion fatigue. And I realize even in the clinical setting that is still very possible to suffer from compassion fatigue, but you can't just, you can't get to the point, and it is possible that you could get to the point that you just feel numb.

Dr. Ayanna Wilson (05:35)
Mm-hmm.

Mm-hmm.

Dr. Daveeta Levy (05:56)
And I never, I never, never, never want to get to that point. I never want to get to that point. And I feel like in those situations too, cause sometimes you get knocked back to back with like euthanasias or chronic illness. Definitely. Yeah. For some reason people realize like whether they're about to go on vacation or now it's the summertime.

Dr. Ayanna Wilson (06:10)
Especially during the holiday season. Yeah.

Mm-hmm.

Dr. Daveeta Levy (06:24)
And there's also

an uptick of euthanasias around that time too. Or like they have somebody come and watch their pet and like maybe that person is like, ⁓ Fluffy ain't, you know, Fluffy too, right? Ain't Fluffy no more

Dr. Ayanna Wilson (06:37)
I ain't fluffy.

Dr. Daveeta Levy (06:42)
So I

do see a lot, you know, an uptick around, like you said, the holidays and summertime too. But, ⁓ you know, if there's multiple vets at the clinic, because I know in most clinics that I go to, they're going to take the euthanasia. ⁓ You know, and even if it's usually a walk-in situation or it's an emergency situation where we need to come in now to have them euthanize. We need to this today.

Dr. Ayanna Wilson (06:49)
Mm-hmm.

Mm-hmm.

Dr. Daveeta Levy (07:12)
And so I think for the clinic standpoint, scheduling those appropriately or like dispersing them rather, because sometimes you can't really plan for those, but like spreading them out so it's not all on like one vet If you notice like that vet has already had like three or four euthanasias that week, like put that on somebody else, you know, don't weigh the person down.

Dr. Ayanna Wilson (07:35)
Yeah.

Yeah, there's definitely a lot

on the person, for sure. I don't see them as much anymore because I'm not in that type of clinic setting currently. But I tell you, I ran over a Snake today and it was very unexpected and I was so sad. It was so sad. was like, he probably just finished eating, he was minding his business.

Dr. Daveeta Levy (07:44)
Hmm.

Turn off

Right.

Dr. Ayanna Wilson (08:02)
He

crossing the road that most people don't even come down on a daily here I come big old tires or just Pancake, you know, like that is it's so sad. It was a big old snake, too But I was like, it's so sad. So, you know just that type of compassion and feelings Definitely overwhelm you

Dr. Daveeta Levy (08:12)
Mm-mm. Mm-mm. Mm-mm.

Yeah.

The third one is reduced sense of accomplishment. You feel like your efforts don't matter or you aren't making a difference even when you are helping animals and clients. There's a constant sense of underachievement or failure.

Dr. Ayanna Wilson (08:49)
No. No.

haha

Dr. Daveeta Levy (09:00)
There has to be a constant reminder to yourself.

I've done so much and that's why journaling I think is really important and really helpful or like notes of gratitude, just writing those things out so that you can go back and reflect on them because you can really dig yourself in a pit of feeling like you haven't accomplished much, but you have. The fact that you're here.

Dr. Ayanna Wilson (09:17)
Mm-hmm.

Are you talking to me, Daveeta?

Dr. Daveeta Levy (09:37)
You have accomplished all much.

Dr. Ayanna Wilson (09:43)
Cause I'm like, a pity. What a pity it was.

Dr. Daveeta Levy (09:49)
⁓ my gosh. Yeah,

I'm like this, know, us as doctors, I'm like, there's so much that we had to go through to get to this point, to get to this point. Like not just, nobody told us to do this. This is something we decided on our own.

Dr. Ayanna Wilson (10:10)
You did this.

You did this to you.

Dr. Daveeta Levy (10:14)
Right. So, you know, that type of strive and determination to, you know, get through whatever obstacles that you had to get through to get to this point is not anything to be overlooked. And, you know, society has us, you know, thinking like we need to have our lives set up a certain way.

Dr. Ayanna Wilson (10:32)
Mm-hmm.

Dr. Daveeta Levy (10:43)
⁓ But when you hear it, takes, know, and that's why I like the open dialogue because when you hear about other people's, you know, stories and what they may be currently going through, it does, you know, kind of put things more into perspective, like, okay, I got this, ⁓ you know, things are not as bad as they could be, but it's like,

Dr. Ayanna Wilson (11:10)
then

Dr. Daveeta Levy (11:11)
Even in your situation, you have a master's. Not a lot of people have accomplished it. You became a doctor. Not a lot of people have accomplished it. You know, like you have your own business. Not a lot of people have accomplished it, you know? And so even though it may still be things that you may be still working on.

⁓ and growing, you're still doing ⁓ it. The alternative could be not doing anything at all.

Dr. Ayanna Wilson (11:39)
Thank you.

Yeah.

sitting on the sofa, grieving constantly. Like, who is that helping? And really, I'm not saying don't take a minute, don't take a beat, because you gotta take a beat, and you can definitely take a day and feel sorry for yourself. But once that day is over, you're have to put your hooves to the ground, and get out. Because let me tell you, time and bills wait for no one. So.

Dr. Daveeta Levy (11:52)
See you.

So.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Mm-hmm. They sure don't Mm-mm. Yeah, even on the way, on the way to California, got an email, the water bill. I'm like, girl, you're for June, okay? We've already paid you for May. You're covered. Like, I don't want to see no bills on the way to my vacation.

Dr. Ayanna Wilson (12:21)
Let's get it.

Yeah.

We're

on vacation. As Peppa Pig would say we're on holiday, okay?

Dr. Daveeta Levy (12:45)
holiday.

Okay, we will check you out in June.

Dr. Ayanna Wilson (12:48)
Back up.

Get out of my inbox.

fun stealer

Dr. Daveeta Levy (12:56)
⁓ my goodness. The next one is increased irritability. You become more easily frustrated with coworkers, clients, or even minor inconveniences. Your patience is shorter and small issues can feel like major problems.

Dr. Ayanna Wilson (13:18)
Trigger trigger trigger trigger trigger

Dr. Daveeta Levy (13:26)
⁓ my goodness. know like for me, I feel like I am really patient. But I feel like I'm becoming less of a patient person as time goes on. And I noticed like there are times where I have been short with even some of my technicians sometimes.

Dr. Ayanna Wilson (13:32)
Yea you are.

Mm-hmm.

Dr. Daveeta Levy (13:49)
if

I'm, you know, frustrated or annoyed. And I even, you know, sometimes express or put that off on my kids sometimes too. Like if I'm, you know, tired and I'm stressed about, you know, work or, making sure that I have shifts filled, for the month, like those are things that I'm thinking about. And they just want my time.

Dr. Ayanna Wilson (13:59)
Mark.

Mm-hmm. ⁓

Dr. Daveeta Levy (14:15)
you

know, my love and my affection, and so ⁓ I've definitely struggled with that.

Dr. Ayanna Wilson (14:26)
Keywords struggle, it's real.

Now, I know that all too well and that's one of the signs that let me know that I had to get on down, bringing it home and being very, like.

Dr. Daveeta Levy (14:35)
Mm-hmm.

Dr. Ayanna Wilson (14:45)
the moment somebody says something to me, it's just like, rawr. Or it's too loud in here. And now, listen.

Dr. Daveeta Levy (14:47)
Mm-hmm. Girl, that overstimulation.

That overstimulation. ⁓

Dr. Ayanna Wilson (14:56)
All the time.

All the time. It's fun.

Dr. Daveeta Levy (14:59)
I'm like,

turn the TVs down. Y'all doing too much.

Dr. Ayanna Wilson (15:03)
I feel like Temple Grandin put me in

a squeeze chute and just leave me here, okay? Because I have too many feelings right now. Too many feelings. I had to tell them all the time, like, it's not about y'all. I promise you. Mommy is just doing the most in her brain, okay?

Dr. Daveeta Levy (15:12)
Mm-hmm ⁓

It's not about, it's not you it's me.

Mm-hmm.

number five is physical symptoms.

Dr. Wilson (15:32)
Woo!

Dr. Daveeta Levy (15:33)
So

this will be chronic headaches, stomach issues, fatigue, or unexplained body aches, can be physical manifestations of stress and burnout. ⁓

Dr. Wilson (15:47)
And

you know, like I mentioned in my case, ⁓ my hyperthyroid symptoms coming back, internalizing all of the stress. So I'm a firm believer in stress creates inflammation in your body and so on and so forth and creates all this chronic immune mediated ⁓ cancer, all the things.

Dr. Daveeta Levy (15:55)
Mm-hmm.

Mm-hmm.

Mm-hmm.

Yeah, stress definitely kills. Firm believer in that. And your body, like I mentioned before, it's going to let you know that something ain't right. you know, I'm glad Sherrelle did mention even, the physical part of it, going to get whatever test that needs to be done, whatever blood work.

Dr. Wilson (16:18)
Yep.

Hmm.

Really

nice.

Dr. Daveeta Levy (16:44)
make sure that you are okay, but I know like when I get stressed, headaches do occur, like my vision even sometimes it's just like, I where my glasses, that's when I need to put my glasses on mm-hmm, like I'm so stressed, I'm like, I can't even really see you right now, like you're not clear,

Dr. Wilson (16:57)
my god.

Yeah.

like my memory here lately as I was getting older, my memory, yeah, I don't have the best memory anyway, but I almost have short-term memory loss. It gets severe, and I'm just like, this is kind of scary. I should probably try to eliminate some of this stress. Let it go, girl, let it go.

Dr. Daveeta Levy (17:16)
Mm-hmm.

Mmmmm

Mm-hmm. Right.

Dr. Wilson (17:35)
before I

Dr. Daveeta Levy (17:37)
Girl, hold

on. Number six is sleep disturbances. Trouble falling asleep, staying asleep, or waking up feeling unrested, even on your days off. This can also be linked to mental and emotional overload. If I've had, a rough day, I usually don't have a problem falling asleep, but staying asleep.

Dr. Wilson (17:58)
Okay.

Dr. Daveeta Levy (18:00)
I do sometimes have issues with especially if something bad happened that day I Am thinking about that situation the entire night The entire night and like then there's times when I'm just woken up in the middle of the night Thinking about things and so I then have to usually I will

Dr. Wilson (18:06)
Mm-hmm.

yeah. ⁓

Dr. Daveeta Levy (18:26)
like pray or like read the Bible during that time, just to like, ease my mind and help me to fall back to sleep. ⁓ those I do experience. And even like if I've had a full night of sleep, still waking up tired.

Dr. Wilson (18:29)
Okay.

Yeah, I don't think it's more about the acute things that happen. If it's on a day-to-day basis for me, because I internalize, that's my way of, I compartmentalize, I'm like, right, go in here, which is not conducive. it turns in, stuff that's been going on for a minute, I always tell people, you don't wanna be the reason why I wake up at four o'clock in the morning, because it's always the same time.

Dr. Daveeta Levy (18:57)
Mm-hmm.

Dr. Wilson (19:13)
You don't want to be reason. Because that means you on my brain real heavy. So if you are, or if this thing is, you gotta go. You gotta go. Of course, if it's in a negative way, of course I'm thinking about somebody or concerned is one thing. But if you are the reason in a negative way, why I'm waking up.

Dr. Daveeta Levy (19:26)
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

Yeah.

Dr. Wilson (19:39)
Count your days, sweetheart. Count your days. Mm-mm. So, yes.

Dr. Daveeta Levy (19:41)
Yeah.

And sleep is very, very important. Sleep is important, you know, for your overall well-being. I think that that's overrated. Like, people don't really realize how, like, important that is to get good quality rest.

Dr. Wilson (19:49)
Mm-hmm.

Yeah!

It affects your memory, affects your attitude, affects your weight, it affects your heart health, like all the things. If you don't get sleep, you will die. That sound real dramatic, but it was true. Eventually, yeah. mean, cannot, literally you can't stay up for a week without, like you can't do that because

Dr. Daveeta Levy (20:14)
Where are going?

Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Yep. I mean...

Ultimately, yes.

Yeah,

Dr. Wilson (20:35)
you will definitely.

Dr. Daveeta Levy (20:36)
right. Yeah, yeah. But yeah, I mean, yes. So even like to function on a day-to-day basis, like without sleep or good quality sleep, like you're no good. you know, it's a struggle to get through the day. And who wants that? Like you have patients in the palm of your hands, you know, their lives.

Dr. Wilson (20:51)
Yeah.

Mm-hmm.

Dr. Daveeta Levy (21:04)
So you really do need to be the best

version of yourself that you can be. The next one, number seven, is isolation. You withdraw from social interactions, even with friends and family. You may start skipping lunch with coworkers or avoiding phone calls and texts.

I don't know if it's because of me being a Pisces. ⁓ Although I am social, I really need my time to myself.

so I do notice that like, if I just, keep going, going, that social battery. Like I'd be all fun and games, you know, Out and about, but like, I will come in this room and like, I, it's just me, you know, the blinds are closed and I really need, I really need that personal time for myself. And that's why.

Dr. Wilson (21:48)
you ⁓

Mm-hmm.

Dr. Daveeta Levy (22:06)
I do wake up much earlier than everybody else in this house just so that I can get that time of quietness. Ain't nobody doing nothing because I need that to be able to function. And in the work environments that I've been in,

Dr. Wilson (22:21)
yeah.

Dr. Daveeta Levy (22:31)
I don't know, for me, like I haven't necessarily isolated because I felt like depressed or anything, but like I've just gotten to the point of like, I don't really want to be around y'all like that. Like I'm just coming to work.

Dr. Wilson (22:49)
saying that.

No, I get it. I get it. I'm laughing, but I understand wholeheartedly.

Dr. Daveeta Levy (22:57)
I'm just coming to work and I'm just dipping on up out of here, once my work is done. Yeah. And so like some of the extra activities, like I've done all of that in the past. Like I've always been the one and I'll still do some things occasionally, but I don't feel like I no longer feel like I need to be at everything.

Dr. Wilson (23:03)
paying the work to work today.

Dr. Daveeta Levy (23:20)
And so now I am making the decision to be like, I don't want to go to lunch with everybody. I'm fine with sitting in my office or sitting in my car and eating my food by myself. I'm need to recoup from all the socialization, from everything and everybody.

Dr. Wilson (23:29)
Yeah. ⁓

Yeah. Yeah.

Dr. Daveeta Levy (23:45)
If I start to isolate myself, like that's just what I need for myself. But I do think that it is, you know, if it's somebody that always likes to be involved in things and they suddenly decide like, I don't want to talk to nobody about nothing. Then, you know, those are things as a friend or a family member to check in on and to pay attention to.

Dr. Wilson (24:04)
Hello.

Yeah.

Yeah, that's not me.

forgot there was something going on or I just I'm a firm believer in signs and Taurus We make plans like yeah, yeah, but don't be surprised we don't come.

Dr. Daveeta Levy (24:22)
You

Mm-hmm.

Right.

Dr. Wilson (24:35)
We're good. I'm at home, in my PJs, eating, drinking, wine.

Dr. Daveeta Levy (24:39)
Right,



down to number eight, loss of passion or joy, things you once loved about being a vet now feel like a chore. You may feel disillusioned about the profession and question if you chose the right career path. Let me tell you, I have definitely, definitely been there, definitely questioned whether,

this was the path that I still wanted to continue on, have weighed out, you know, well, what else would I do, you know, if it wasn't practicing veterinary medicine. And I mean, I did ultimately decide that, yes, I would like to continue practicing, but I needed it to look different. And I feel like I'm still even in that arena of

Dr. Wilson (25:19)
Mm-hmm.

Dr. Daveeta Levy (25:36)
on that path of figuring out what that was like for me in the long run. And that's all in the efforts to regain that passion because I feel like I'm just now starting to get that back. And although there were certain aspects about what, you know, that I enjoyed about what I did,

Dr. Wilson (25:42)
For sure. ⁓

Dr. Daveeta Levy (26:01)
So, know, overall, like, I just want to do something completely different, non veterinary related. And I still, I still do, but I still want to practice. Like there was a point where I didn't even want to do this at all. And now I'm to the point where I still want to have something on the side that has nothing to do with veterinary medicine, but I do still.

Dr. Wilson (26:14)
Mm hmm.

Dr. Daveeta Levy (26:25)
I do still want to practice, even if it's for like a day or two out the week.

Dr. Wilson (26:32)
Understood

I felt like once I was in the pits of things because it's all I ever wanted to do and it's kind of I'm a creature of habit and I just really headstrong about what I want. And it's a double-edged sword but let's just say I just felt like

Dr. Daveeta Levy (26:47)
Mm-hmm.

Dr. Wilson (26:56)
Once I start questioning it based off of where I was, that's how I knew I had to go so I can remain passionate about what I'm doing. yeah, that's my passion story.

Dr. Daveeta Levy (26:57)
Mm-hmm.

Mm-hmm. Yes. Mm-hmm.

Hmm.

Number nine is poor concentration and decision fatigue. Your mind feels foggy, tasks that once came easy now take more effort and simple decisions feel mentally taxing.

Dr. Wilson (27:34)
I just uh,

I'm pretty, I can be pretty indecisive about things in the first place.

Dr. Daveeta Levy (27:44)
Mm-hmm.

Dr. Wilson (27:49)
But once I know, I know. I'm very like, especially at work, I'm just like, it's whatever. they're like, well, Dr. So-and-so likes to use this, or do you want this, or you want that? I'm just like, girl, I don't care. Whatever. As long as it's gonna close this dog up, or as long as this blood gonna run right I do not care. That's not what I focus on.

Dr. Daveeta Levy (27:58)
I don't know.

Yeah.

Dr. Wilson (28:16)
That one I don't think that I recognize as much and I think in the future I have to pay more attention to like how I feel about decision making or if it becomes difficult in situations in which I feel stressed.

Dr. Daveeta Levy (28:27)
Mm-hmm.

Yeah, this one is more a situation dependent for me. I don't know that I've, you know, felt this strongly, but there have been periods of time where I may have felt kind of like that brain fog, especially if I was really stressed.

but not a feeling that I felt like lasted or lingered for a long period of time.

And the last one is number 10. So this is increased use of substances or unhealthy coping. So you may notice an uptick in alcohol use, emotional eating, or reliance on stimulants or sleep aids as a way to manage the daily grind.

Dr. Wilson (29:24)
Well, knowing what we know about veterinarians and their likeliness to be alcoholics or substance abusers on a more increased basis than other professions.

I've always been like a social drinker. I don't engage in recreational drugs. I don't even like taking medicine, so it's really not anything that I feel compelled to do.

Dr. Daveeta Levy (29:48)
Mm-hmm.

Dr. Wilson (29:52)
I do like me a good old cocktail. I call myself a barista or a mixologist. But I feel like at my most stressful moment, I did find myself pouring a little bit more wine than I normally would. And quite honestly, it might make some people feel better. It wasn't making the situation better.

Dr. Daveeta Levy (30:13)
Definitely not.

Dr. Wilson (30:13)
at all, not for

me. I mean, and I say that, and of course in the grand scheme of things, it's not making it better, right? We all know that it wasn't soothing anything in me. It wasn't.

Dr. Daveeta Levy (30:19)
Hmm.

Dr. Wilson (30:24)
It was amplifying things, but I was recognizing that that was happening in the first place. Whereas I feel like with some people who rely on it, it soothes something. It calms no, it exacerbates my conditions. It's easy for me to be like, okay, girl, that's enough. This is making you insane. yeah, that's definitely my take on it, for sure.

Dr. Daveeta Levy (30:35)
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. ⁓

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

I'm definitely more of a social, drinker or whatnot. But ⁓ during the week, I will say if there had been a stressful day, there's something that I am going to partake in. So like if it was a long stressful day, sometimes I'll stop and get a caramel ribbon crunch.

Dr. Wilson (31:10)
Okay.

Dr. Daveeta Levy (31:18)
Frappuccino, From Starbucks

that's a treat, you know.

Dr. Wilson (31:27)
Yeah.

Dr. Daveeta Levy (31:29)
there may be like some ice cream, there's this particular thing, because it can't just be any ice cream, you know, it's like my turtle, like chocolate type of ice caramel ice cream. Like it's very particular type of ice cream that I only eat that here at the house. And so it's like, I'm gonna eat that. ⁓ And then also a glass of wine, like I will.

Dr. Wilson (31:42)
Yeah.

Dr. Daveeta Levy (31:55)
Likely partake, if it was a long stressful day, I'm likely going to get, it's not all these things together, it's one or the other. Because then that would not be good for my digestive system. But at least one of those things. ⁓ But I would, a glass of wine, hates to see me coming on a long stressful day. ⁓

Dr. Wilson (32:17)
Hahaha!

Dr. Daveeta Levy (32:21)
And honestly, all it does is it just puts me to sleep. You know, it just makes me sleepy and then I can just go to sleep. there's stress everywhere, but I just feel like the level of stress that we have to deal with physically and mentally, it's a lot. It's a lot. And it's draining.

Dr. Wilson (32:25)
year.

Dr. Daveeta Levy (32:44)
getting through some of these days, even if it was like, it don't even necessarily have to be in, you know, like I know we talked a lot about corporate, but like just a long day in general. ⁓ nothing, nothing terrible had to happen. There's just so much happened in the day.

Dr. Wilson (32:55)
Yeah, absolutely.

Yep.

Listen,

yesterday was so good. It was so good. Lots of beautiful things happened. But it was very productive. And I was dog tired. No pun intended. I was like, ⁓ my sister made me a drink when I went to her house. And I was like, yeah, it was a big old glass too. So ⁓ it was much needed.

Dr. Daveeta Levy (33:16)
Hmm.

Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

Mm-hmm.

Dr. Wilson (33:32)
It was much needed. And I use this lotion at night here recently. And it was, it's not for this specific reason, but it has melatonin in it. Lord, it works. And it ain't one of the melatonins that give you crazy dreams. It's the melatonin that like knocks you out. And I don't realize it until I'm like, okay, I'm stuck. I need to get up and go to bed. Yeah.

Dr. Daveeta Levy (33:32)
Mmhmm. Mmhmm.

Hmm... I guess it's just a...

I need to get this lotion, lord

Dr. Wilson (34:02)
Mm-hmm. No,

for real. I'll share with you.

Dr. Daveeta Levy (34:07)
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Well, those are 10 signs of veterinary burnout. You know, again, sometimes you may not even realize that that is what you're experiencing, and we don't mean to make light of any of them. It's just sharing.

Dr. Wilson (34:09)


I'll make it.

No, absolutely

not.

Dr. Daveeta Levy (34:28)
Yeah, sharing our personal experience, whether we have experienced those things or not, because it is good to do a self check in to see if you may need to, seek help for yourself. So in the next video, we'll talk about some ways that you can, help yourself if you are dealing with burn out

Dr. Wilson (34:51)
Yes.

Dr. Daveeta Levy (34:52)
All righty, so that is a wrap. We're wrapping it all up and we're going to go continue our lives.

Dr. Wilson (34:57)
It's a little wrap.

Yeah. Let me make my second trip or third trip to Braxton which of course you guys don't know is 45 minutes away. In two days, 24 hours, less than 24 hours. Yeah, but it's worth it. I love these people. Yeah.

Dr. Daveeta Levy (35:18)
Hmmmm

Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

Well safe travels on the road. And we will see y'all next time. Bye.

Dr. Wilson (35:28)
Alrighty. Thank you, thank you.

Bye!


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